第七百零二章:暖阁觐见
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“这倒不必。”郝风楼正色道:“你在宫中当差,平时攒些体己钱不容易,这礼我若是收了,心中实在不安,大家是自己人,不必如此,心意到了就是。”
平白无故的卖了这太监一个人情,郝风楼已到了暖阁外头,跨步进去。
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朱棣已听到外头的动静,笑呵呵的问步入暖阁的郝风楼,道:“怎么,什么心意到了就是。”
郝风楼只得如实禀告。
朱棣不由微楞:“勤政满了周岁,这事儿,朕倒是忘了。”
朱棣坐下,旋即道:“好啦,你且坐下,这件事暂且搁一边,今日教你来,本来是询问一下这南边民怨沸腾之事,只不过太子说的一些话,发人深省,看来这迁民之事,却还是继续下去。正好,朝廷也趁此机会,清查一下流民和逃户,哎……这真是不查不知道,一查触目惊心啊,太祖在的时候,可曾见过有人有这般大的胆子,可如今呢,这才几年,朕竟不知,在这黄册之外,竟还有这么多不在籍的百姓,这个先例,可以推诿给建文,或许是他开个口子。可是朕现在是天子,说到底,责任终究还是在朕,或许是朕太宽厚了,朕喊你来,便是打算动用锦衣卫,好生清查一下……”
郝风楼听了,却是坐的笔直,摇头道:“陛下,微臣以为,这件事,不能查。”
“嗯?”朱棣面露疑惑,道:“这又是为何?”
郝风楼正色道:“逃户和流民之事,在洪武年间没有出乱子,并非是因为朝廷对此事严厉,只是因为洪武皇帝荡平天下,百姓经历了诸多战乱,人口大为减少,因此天下各处都有荒地,当时在册的百姓,不过二百万户而已,因此百姓们编入黄册,各种开垦,自然不会有什么乱子。只是这数十年来安养生息,两口之家,两代下来,却成了十口之家,人口已翻番了两倍有余,从前一户两三口人家三十亩地尚且勉强有些盈余,而如今到了这一代,却是几个兄弟十几口人指望着三十亩的地过日子,这样的日子,怎么维持的下去?正因为如此,许多人不得不举债度日,最后有不得不将田地押出去兜售,没有了土地,只好租种别家的水田,可是一旦欠收,日子就过不下去了,陛下,人是要吃饭的,饿着肚子,难道能坐以待毙么?因此这才有了流民,有了逃户,朝廷若是清查,就算将人清查了出来,又能如何?因此微臣以为,唯有给予安置,且不论他是否在编,睁只眼闭只眼,给他们一口饭吃,大家自然而然,也就遵守法令了,若是贸然四处清查,不免使人疑惧,怕要闹出乱子。”
朱棣阖目,似也有些犹豫,道:“那照你这么说,这些人,统统都赶去暹罗去”
郝风楼微笑道:“微臣可不敢这样说,其实这也不必赶,微臣命人四处侦查,却是知道单福建一地,虽然朝廷海禁,可是杨帆出海的百姓,却数不胜数,陛下,人挪活、树挪死啊,洪武年间有洪武年间的问题,这当今也有当今的问题,万不可一概而论。”
朱棣不禁笑了:“想不到你这锦衣卫指挥使,竟也能微言大义,朕竟是小瞧了你。”
郝风楼讪讪一笑,道:“大道理,微臣其实是不懂的,论起读书,微臣与庙堂上的学士和尚书相比,实在是连提鞋都不配,不过微臣却知道世情,知道民情。”
朱棣颌首点头,道:“这倒是实话,好罢,那么依你之见,这流民和逃户之事,就靠一个定南来解决?”
郝风楼想了想,道:“这当然不是治根,只是治本,总有一天,定南的土地也都会开垦干净,到时也会人满为患,只是暂时缓解一时之需罢了,不过这世上的事,本就是如此,百年之后的事,谁能预料,太祖皇帝何等圣明,可是哪里料到,在洪武年间,朝廷还在鼓励生育,只嫌这荒地寻不到人开垦,不能把大片的桑海变成沧田,哪里会想到,这几代下来,天下就已人满为患,百姓就已人满为患了呢,微臣只是个蒙古大夫,只晓得头痛医头脚痛医脚,这世上,既不会有什么灵丹妙药,能治世间疑难杂症,也不会有什么方略和国策,能永绝天下的所有弊病,后世的事,该后世的圣君去操心。微臣这些年,别的没学会,就知道了一个道理。”
朱棣来了兴趣,道:“却不知是什么道理。”
郝风楼微笑:“这世上,但凡有包治百病的,多半就是骗子;有说任何东西,能延续万世的,怕也只是笑话罢了,秦皇在的时候,开天下先河,置郡县,书同文车同轨,本以为那样的国政,必定能延续万世,最后如何?可见这世上的事,什么都不能打包票,这治国和施政,无非就是泥瓦匠的手段,哪里漏了就补一补,哪里坏了就修一修,别无他法。”
朱棣听罢,不由愠怒,忍不住拍着案牍,呵斥道:“你郝大的胆子,竟敢诽谤太祖?”
郝风楼本说的起劲,谁知朱棣大怒,倒是一头雾水,禁不住道:“微臣万死……”
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