第19节：正视自己的丑陋面(6)
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问：《圣经》上说，你要爱你的仇敌，中国人只对朋友有感情。龙腾小说ltxsba.com美国人在平常没有人情味，但在需要帮助时，他就会帮助，这可能是受到《圣经》影响。
柏：其实他们平常对陌生人说“哈?”，这就是人情味；中国人陌生人见面，怒目相视。
问：外国人平常好像不爱国，但有需要时都出来了。
柏：恰恰相反，中国人平常爱国爱得不像话，每一件事都要爱国，结果把国爱成今天这个样子，我常想，不要再爱国了！或者，用剩下来的精力，先把自己爱好、先把自己的质量提高就够了。自爱就是爱国。
问：我们该如何克服我们的弱点？
柏：我觉得我们先从说话开始。多说“谢谢”，多说“对不起”，多说“我能不能帮忙”。全世界所有的中国城，都是藏污纳垢的地方。再看看意大利城，看看日本城，他们的小区清洁整齐，中国人真是无地自容。为什么不先从清洁着手！
问：中国文化中难道没有一点民主？
柏：中国当然有民主：“你是民，我是主！”
问：您怎样展望中华民族和整个中国的未来？
柏：这要看我们这些人——普通人民，是否都能觉醒，是否知道我们的缺点是什么。这是文化层面，不是政治层面。
问：您今天所说的，在台湾是不是也可以说？
柏：我说的话，人前人后，从官方到民间，从台北到纽约，都是一样。如果能去大陆，我也是这个意见。
问：中国要建立起一个民主制度，需要改造我们的民族性，需要从酱缸里跳出来。如果多数中国人都不自觉，推动也相当困难，少数人自觉也无能为力。
柏：我们现在就要告诉人民，人民与政府之间，是权利义务的关系。
问：我认为，制度与民族性、人性之间，有很大的依附关系。改造民族性是长期的过程，并非要等改造好了才去建立民主制度。也可以先建立民主制度，以有利于民族性的改造。
柏：所以我们争一时，也争千秋，争千秋，也争一时。有千秋的计划，但能改变一点就改变一点。这种压力一旦形成，会有很大效果。只看我们的努力能否构成压力，能否形成一种非民主不可的潮流。
问：中国人太聪明，但中国人的小聪明太多，没有大智慧。美国人看起来笨笨的，但他们却有大智慧。就长程来说，小聪明斗不过大智慧。
柏：中国人太聪明了，聪明得把所有的人都看成白痴。自己从八十层高楼跌下来，经过五十层窗口外，还在讥笑里面喝咖啡的夫妇，竟然不知道不久就会被咖啡噎死！
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