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第37节:人生文学与历史(12)

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今天我讲中国这么多缺点,有人听了一定很泄气,我觉得我们应该听的,正是这些,而不是优点,假如我们讲我们的美德、我们的聪明……最后,我们还是不能够受到人家尊重,我们自己也不能自尊。龙腾小说ltxsba.com要知道,中国人的灾难,不仅是中国人自己的灾难,也是全世界的灾难。一只小船沉下去就沉下去,一只大船沉下去,引起来的漩涡会把附近的船都吸引下去。我觉得我们应该自救,自救的第一件事就是要知道自己的缺点,假如不知道自己的缺点,整天去想得意的事,恐怕有点像贾宝玉意淫(笑声)。

听众j:我常听到两句成语,一句是“以不变应万变”,另一句是“报喜不报忧”,您有什么看法?

柏杨:“以不变应万变”,我不敢有意见(笑声、掌声)。“报喜不报忧”,我想这是官场特征。

听众k(美国人):您今天演讲的题目好像是专门说中国人的坏话,我想请您也说说美国的坏话(笑声),就您所看到的书,及您在美国所看到的事,您觉得美国有什么地方,应该向有五千年历史的中国学习?

柏杨:关于美国人的坏话,美国人自己已讲得太多了,这是我非常羡慕的地方,因为美国有自我平衡、自我反省、自我调整的力量。自己有错的地方,都自己讲出来,自己能接受,自己能鉴赏,这一点我们中国人不能。你要是讲美国人好,人家就说,你,为什么不是美国人,不把鼻子拉高(笑声)?有人讲这是崇洋媚外,我觉得崇洋很好嘛,有什么不好,不但要崇洋,而且要彻底地崇洋,我如果有权利,我一定规定每个人不崇洋不行,哪一个人不是从头到尾都是洋?而且各位还住在美国,而我还住在台湾,我觉得这是醒悟不醒悟的问题,我们应该把人家的好处一条条列下来,好的地方,我们就应该学。我们如果希望像美国一样强大,我们就需要向美国人学习,美国值得我们学习的地方太多了。美国当然不可能十全十美,因为世界上没有十全十美,至少美国的邮政就坏,投递既慢,而又经常放假。但我们也应该庆幸美国不十全十美,假如美国是那样,它就僵化了。

听众l:柏杨先生是一个博士,是一个病理学家,他今天说我们丧失了民族自尊心,应包括柏杨先生自己在内。今天他说的话,把我们五千年的历史说到坟墓里去了,不能使我们唤起民族精神,这一点我今天来听,觉得很遗憾。我觉得中国受了封建思想的余毒很浓厚,再加上儒家思想,假如我们把儒家思想转变成法治思想,从人治转变为法治,建立法律制度,就会弥补过去的许许多多缺点。因为过去都是人存政存,人亡政息,假如我们今天建立法条,你该做几年就做几年,不要去破坏它。我今天是个厨子,如果我要我的儿子也继承做厨子,这便是儒家思想造成的祸患。我们希望柏杨先生告诉我们怎样去治这个病,我们不能放弃。您说崇洋,在座的许多中国人,并不见得在美国就崇洋,这一点希望柏杨先生谅解。这一点,您错了,这是我一点意见。我希望柏杨先生讲的五千年文化不至于在五千年后仍充满了封建、廷杖、官场。希望从今而后能改革,从人治变成法治,走向光明的未来。

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