第一千零七十一章 遏制人口
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“西洋就别去了,也没什么好看的。”易知足缓声道:“真要是静极思动,不妨陪有容兄去西北看看,如今坐火车挺方便的。”
黄殿元接着道:“这一说,我还真是有些心动,西藏是不敢去了,不过,新疆安西还真想去看看。”
“这容易。”易知足不以为意的道:“待的天气再暖和一些,我来安排,咱们一道出去看看这大好河山。”
带着黄殿元参观视察了宝山的几家大工厂,待的返回上海回府,已是日头西斜,一下车,秘书就前来禀报,肃顺、解修元在府中已等候了三个小时了。
估摸着两人应该是有紧要事情,易知足径直前往长乐书屋,稍稍洗漱了下,才让人请二人过来,见面叙礼落座之后,肃顺便试探着道:“此番战胜五国联军,正是我国在南非扩张的大好时机,却将贝专纳和纳塔尔拱手送给德奥意三国,国城兄是无意于南非,还是另有打算?”
易知足在下一盘大棋,不过却是没有把握,自然也不会多说,略微沉吟才道:“南非是是非之地,没有绝对强横的实力,我们保不住。”
肃顺很是意外的道:“这一战不是已经证实了我国强大的军事实力?”
“这只是暂时的。”易知足缓声道:“英吉利的工业实力和船舶制造实力都远在我国之上,一旦英吉利研制出鱼雷和潜艇,我们就无法维持现有的海军优势。
之所以将贝专纳、纳塔尔分给德奥意三国,目的就是制衡,遏制英吉利再次强大起来之后染指德兰士瓦。”
原来的这个原因,肃顺笑道:“我还以为大清是要停止对外扩张了。”
“对外扩张,确实要停止下来。”易知足缓声道:“目前,我国已经没有继续扩张的必要,而是要沉下心来消化这些年扩张的地盘,不夸张的说,只要能够保住现有的领土,足以保证我国二百年之内国运昌盛。”
真打算停止对外扩张了!肃顺心情有些复杂,既有些失望又有几分欢喜,他随即将话题一转,“上午去苏州河公园转了一圈,不知道国城兄有没有将社会福利保障制度形成律法,并进行推广的想法?”
社会福利保障制度目前只是在元奇名下的厂矿企业实行,是元奇强行执行的内部制度,如果形成律法,意义自然不一样,易知足饶有兴致的看了两人一眼,笑道:“认识到社会福利保障制度的好处了?”
肃顺点了点头,道:“随着我国加快发展工业,工人的数量会迅速扩大,相比起农民,工人有着较高的组织性和纪律性,社会福利保障制度能够极大的稳定和安抚工人,消除社会不稳定因素。
再则,社会福利保障制度,利于调解收入分配,利于缩小贫富差距,利于促进发展工业和发展经济。”
易知足看了看他又看了解修元一眼,道:“目前实行社会福利保障制度的只有元奇名下的厂矿企业职员和工人,还有一部分新学堂的教师,官吏们是不是眼热了?”
听他语气有些不善,肃顺沉吟着道:“不患贫,患不均。”
“说的好。”易知足点了点头,“职员、工人、教师、官吏都有社会福利保障,城镇居民呢?农民呢?”
城镇居民和农民难道也需要社会福利保障?肃顺不由的一呆,他压根就没想到这一点,解修元同样也没想到,两人一时间都不知道如何回答,一句不患贫,患不均,令两人哑口无言。
“社会福利保障制度之所以只在元奇内部实行,不是为了尝试。”易知足缓声道:“是因为我国的经济实力和财政收入还无法全面推广实行,因为前全面实行国家需要投入巨额的资金,再缓几年罢。”
再缓几年,可就没他什么事了,肃顺心里一阵郁闷,但对方说的也确实是实情,他有些不甘心的道:“给予官吏社会福利保障,花费应该不会大吧?”
见他坚持,易知足皱了下眉头,随即就想到对方应该是打算接任总理大臣之后推出这一举措笼络官吏,思忖了片刻,他才道:“国家重视教育,这不能是一句空话,必须落到实处,官吏享受社会福利保障,教师没理由不享受。
目前享受社会福利保障的教师都是元奇投建的新式中小学和大学的教师,肃相既然有魄力让官吏享受社会福利保障,元奇也给予一定的支持,连教师都包括在内罢。
另外,城镇居民和农民,也必须给他们留点念想,给予一定数额的养老金,不过,可以将发放养老金的年龄提高点,具体统计一下,看是六十适合还是六十五岁适合。”
听的这话,肃顺不由的大喜过望,连忙拱手道:“这是亘古未有之善政.......。”
易知足摆了摆手打断他的恭维,问道:“知道全面实行社会福利保障制度的最大好处是什么吗?”估摸两人也不知道,他径直道:“最大的好处是遏制人口增长!老有所养,病有所医,就没必要养儿防老。”
遏制人口增长?肃顺、解修元都有些懵,这个说法实在是太出乎两人的意料,肃顺一脸不解的道:“为什么要遏制人口增长?”
易知足缓声道:“连年扩张,连年战争,还有大力发展工业,我国现在可以说是地广人稀,但总人口却高达五亿之众。
随着经济的恢复,随着工业的发展,我国势必迎来一个鼎盛时期,或者说是一个盛世,这意味着什么?意味着我国将迎来一个人口快速增长期,人口基数越大,人口增长速度越快,试想想,四十年后,我国人口达到十五亿,是什么光景?”
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