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第四百三十章 不合规矩

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卓秉恬点了点头,如此说来,这事还确实是利大于弊,略微沉吟,他才道:“铁路的重要性,知足在《铁路兴国十八条》中已经说的十分清楚,可朝廷眼下没银子。”

“在下方才不是说了。”易知足道:“可以大量引进英吉利资金,朝廷没银子,可以向英吉利贷款,也可以发行国债,当然,朝廷如果觉的数额太大,也可以官私合营,或是任由私营,直接参股。”

向英吉利借贷?卓秉恬还真是从来没有想过,他迟疑着道:“不会有损朝廷脸面吧?”

易知足不以为意的道:“落后挨打,割地赔款,丧权辱国,更损脸面!”

白了他一眼,卓秉恬才道:“知足倾向于哪种方式?”

“私营。”易知足不假思索的道:“铁路建好了难道还能拆了不成?放手私人合股组建铁路公司经营,朝廷只需要成立主管铁路交通的部门进行宏观调控管理,便可坐享其成。”

铁路建好了难道还能拆了不成?这句话还真是说到卓秉恬心里去了,想想他又有些疑惑,“元奇不打算参与铁路修建?”

易知足想都没想,随口说道:“铁路修建,元奇岂有不参与之理?元奇会成立铁路公司。”

元奇既然要成立铁路公司,易知足出的这主意,岂不是损人不利己?卓秉恬一双眼睛滴溜溜在他身上转了一圈,一时间有些琢磨不透,半晌才道:“西洋的铁路都是私营?”

“不错。”易知足道:“西洋各国对于铁路修建都是采取放任的态度,不过,咱大清不能如此,对于干线必须有个整体规划,避免出现重复建设和恶性竞争以浪费资金。”

沉吟半晌,卓秉恬才道:“官私合营呢?”

“不赞成。”易知足毫不迟疑的道:“咱们大清的士绅商贾百姓都不愿意与官府合作经营,怕吃亏!而且官私合营,朝廷也需要投入巨额的资金,朝廷需要用银子的地方多,好钢得用到刀刃上。

比如有些无利可图的铁路,私营的铁路公司是不愿意修建的,这必须的朝廷自己修建,比如一些战略要地,在下建议,朝廷能不出钱的铁路坚决不出钱,不要担心让利于民,能够不花钱获得铁路,对于朝廷来说,就是最大的利!”

这话的语气隐隐有些说教,卓秉恬心里微微有些抵触,这小子虽说是朝廷大员,却也是元奇大掌柜,铁路私营,元奇必然受益匪浅,但不得不说,这小子说的有道理!

见他不吭声,易知足也不吭声,他心里很清楚,别说眼下朝廷没银子,就是有银子,朝廷也不可能会出银子修建铁路,毕竟铁路修建花费不菲,而且投资周期长,道光没有这份远见也没这份魄力,手头有余钱,也是去修陵寝和圆明园了。

默然半晌,卓秉恬才开口道:“对于英吉利承建京杭铁路一事,朝中不少勋贵大员颇有微词,知足把方才说的,整理一下,上个折子罢,朝中诸公,有知足这份远见和见识的,实是凤毛麟角。”

“行。”易知足爽快的道,这事他确实是欠道光一个解释,顿了顿,他试探着道:“在下既实授南洋提督,这上海道一职?”

卓秉恬道:“这事怎的问起老夫来了?”

“大人是吏部尚书,在下不问大人,问谁去?”

不以为意的笑了笑,卓秉恬才道:“南洋提督是武职,上海道是文职,按理两者不能兼任,不过,知足也清楚,这个上海道是怎么来的,这要看知足是什么想法。”

易知足自然是不愿意放弃这个上海道的身份,毕竟县官不如现管,他可是想把上海当做自己的地盘来发展规划的,若是没有了这层身份,那会有着诸多不便,略微沉吟,他才道:“在下如果不愿放弃呢?”

“这不合规矩。”卓秉恬道:“不过,知足可以举荐人来做这个上海道台,朝廷不会驳的另外,南洋提督衙署究竟设在哪个口岸,谕旨里也没指定不是。”

“谢大人指点。”易知足拱手道谢,心里暗松了口气,这上海道台他可以举荐一个自己人,南洋提督衙署也可以设在上海,想了想,他才道:“大人可知,南洋大臣的衙署设在何处?”

卓秉恬早就提点过耆英,听的这话不由笑道:“这事老夫哪里知道,知足得去问耆大人,不过,想来耆大人也是不愿意与知足同城的。”说着,他话头一转,“上海开埠,江海关关税必然水涨船高,老夫很有些怀疑,知足是不是早就知道上海会开埠?”

“在下可没有未卜先知的本事。”易知足连忙一口否认。

卓秉恬盯着他道:“知足若非早料到上海会开埠,千万国债,岂会以区区江海关关税为抵押?”

“大人想多了不是。”易知足笑道:“当初不过是随意的挑选了一个关口,为的是不坏元奇放贷抵押的规矩而已。”

卓秉恬一脸信你才怪的表情,却也没追问,沉吟了一阵才道:“朝廷如今的情况,知足也清楚,江宁何时能够发行国债?”

发行国债?易知足眼睛眨了眨,道:“如今已经休战,河南水灾也过了赈济期,朝廷无须再发行国债了罢?在下窃以为,当务之急是吸纳资金修建铁路!”

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