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第八百一十一章 铁路权

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恭王奕訢,怡亲王载垣以及肃顺与易知足都颇为熟稔,几人见面寒暄,倒也透着几分随意,礼让着进屋落座,易知足便笑道:“诸位可是为京张铁路一事而来?”

“确是为此事而来。”奕訢颌首道:“朝廷从未有过举债修建铁路之例,有些举棋不定。”

易知足径直问道:“英吉利主动提出借贷修路,以什么为抵押?”

“铁路运营权。”奕訢道:“具体年限,还要等线路勘测,核算成本,计算借贷数额等之后再行商议。”

易知足缓缓摇了摇头,“英吉利经济危机,铁路建设成本大幅降低,我倒是不反对借款修建铁路,但要铁路的运营权不行。”

奕訢沉吟着道:“以铁路运营权为抵押,朝廷可以说毫无负担,何以不行?”

“恭王小看了铁路运营权。”易知足不急不缓的道:“拥有铁路运营权,就必须开办铁路公司,雇请员工,维持铁路正常运转的员工不是小数目,为了维持火车上治安秩序,还要成立铁路警局,为了保护铁路线上的桥梁和隧道的安全,还需要成立武装部队驻守......。”

听的这话,奕訢登时不说话了,他也没少坐火车,只是极少留意到这些事情,听的这一说,才觉的这事还真是有点欠妥。

“再有,更为重要的是,掌控一条铁路的运营权就等于是掌控了这条铁路沿线的经济,掌控了这条铁路沿线的商贸、采矿、交通,朝廷若要运兵,也须得仰其鼻息!”易知足看了一眼神情有点不自然的奕訢,接着道:“英吉利在澳大利亚和印度也修建铁路,有人评价此举为,‘亡人国而亡之使不知其亡,分人土而分之使不知其分!’”

亡人国而亡之使不知其亡,分人土而分之使不知其分!奕訢听的背后冷汗都沁了出来,他是真没料想到铁路运营权如此重要,其背后居然牵扯如此之广。

肃顺是反对修建京张铁路的,听的这话,不免有些自得,怡亲王载垣却道:“如此说来,还是不修铁路的好。”

易知足的一笑,“铁路既是国防需要,也是发展工业发展经济必不可少的基础,岂能不修?只是铁路权不能拱手送人。”

奕訢苦笑着道:“朝廷财政窘迫,不可能划拨大额银子修建铁路,既是不能以铁路运营权为抵押,又如何大额借贷修路?”

“以英吉利在世界经济中的地位以及工业的发达,一旦爆发经济危机必然波及整个欧洲和美洲,欧洲大量富裕资金需要寻找出路,大清无疑是最为理想的投资地,这就是为什么英法会主动提出借贷修路的原因。”

易知足不紧不慢的说道:“只要能有稳定的收入,足以偿还借贷,欧洲的银行家都会趋之若鹜,虽然不能以铁路权为抵押,但是可以用铁路的运营收入做抵押,张家口连接山西和蒙古,京张铁路的运营收入应该十分可观。”

“以运营权为抵押和以运营收入做抵押,这两者之间可谓是天壤之别!”怡亲王载垣眉开眼笑的道:“镇南王不愧是经济大家.......。”

奕訢也是心悦诚服的道:“元奇经营铁路已十余年,经验之丰富非朝廷可比,京张铁路,还希望元奇能派人全面协助,包括与英法的商业谈判。”

“朝廷修建铁路,元奇义不容辞。”易知足干脆的道。

“本王这里先行谢过。”奕訢欣喜的拱手道,有元奇派人协助,朝廷至少可以避免吃很多亏,毕竟对于修建铁路这方面,朝廷还真是没几个官员熟悉。

顿了顿,他接着道:“这次英吉利经济危机,本王觉的对于朝廷发展工业应该是一个不错的机会,镇南王以为然否?”

易知足微微点了点头,“元奇之所以能迅速崛起,很大程度上也是受益于西洋的两次大规模的经济危机,朝廷要发展工业,确实要把握好这次机会。

英吉利的这次经济危机,除了铁路建设工程大幅缩减之外,船舶制造也是大幅缩减,如今欧洲各国都在竞相制造铁甲舰,朝廷很有必要向英吉利引进船舶制造业,即便得不到最先进的技术,至少也能打下良好的基础。以后的海军战舰必然是铁甲舰的天下,朝廷在这方面不能太过落后。”

美利坚南白战争中的海战中铁甲舰就已经屡屡亮相,对于这个判断,奕訢颇为赞同,当即点了点头,道:“从目前的趋势来看,蒸汽铁甲舰必然是海军战舰的主流,不过,大规模的造船厂,以朝廷的财力怕是无力投建......。”略微一顿,他试探道:“朝廷开办的工厂能否在广州上海募集资金?”

居然是打的这主意?易知足微笑着道:“商办的可以,官办以及官督商办的都不行,出于对股民的负责,也是为着元奇的自身声誉着想,但凡是在广州上海上市的公司工厂,必然接受元奇在各方面的监管。”

“官办以及官督商办的企业工厂,同样可以接受元奇的监管。”奕訢不假思索的道,只要能够筹措资金开办实业,多个元奇监管他并不在意,况且他很清楚,元奇的监管公开透明不说,而且还能进行宏观的调控,对于实业的发展壮大有利无弊。

奕訢的这个态度,倒着实让易知足有些意外,略微沉吟,他才道:“如果能完全接受元奇的监管,倒也不是不能上市。”

见的奕訢自作主张,怡亲王载垣登时有些急了,连忙道:“事关重大,此事还是从长计议的好。”

肃顺却是赞同的道:“不论是官办还是官督商办之实业,有元奇监管都不失一件好事,这既利于朝廷筹措资金加快工业的发展,也利于开办的实业保持良好运转,朝廷在天津开办的那些个实业压根就没法与那些个上市的实业相提并论!”

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