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第一千四百二十九章 盐铁会议

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韩艺道:“以臣的财力,想要广置良田这不是什么问题,可是土地如何赚钱?靠得卖粮食,想要卖得多怎么办,炒高粮价,为什么粮价容易抬高,是因为百姓离不开粮食。盐也是如此,百姓离不开盐,如今盐价才十文一斗,朝廷如果专营,从制造到监管,再到运输、贩卖,哪样不需要人,这得养多少官员,还得缴纳大部分利益给国库,说不定还得依靠商人贩卖,商人也得得利,这么算下来,我估计至少要提高十倍,才能达到充盈国库的目的,否则的话,还可能亏本,当然,亏得是国家的钱,官员还是盈利的。许侍郎说得很对,这其实就是在抢钱,而且极其下作的做法,毫无智慧可言。反正臣是绝不会这么干的,因为这有损臣的名誉,臣赚钱,历来就是靠头脑,靠智慧,不屑于用这些下三滥的手段。”

这话说得李治脸上是一阵红,一阵白,道:“朕只是问问你而已,你说得这是什么话?”

韩艺道:“陛下问臣,就证明陛下动了这心思,陛下作为天下人的君主,而如今四海升平,国泰民安,国库充盈,为什么要去增加百姓的负担,臣感到费解。”

卢承庆呵呵笑道:“韩尚书言之有理啊!”

许圉师、杜正伦也纷纷表态支持韩艺。你皇帝别打这注意,咱们可不会答应的。

李治瞪了眼这厮,你犯得着说得这么明白么。

韩艺也不想,但是这方面,他是要坚决杜绝,因为朝廷一旦开始专营,那就什么都会专营,这会令人上瘾的,而且由俭入奢易,由奢入俭难,再要拉回来,可就难了,一旦形成这种局面,商业就很难发展起来了。而且,这也是韩艺最喜欢唐朝的一个原因,对于商业是采取非常宽松的政策,没有那么繁琐规定,这个要是改变了,他的很多政策都将废弛。

李义府笑道:“韩尚书,自从你上任之后,财政收入不但没有得到什么提升,反倒是支出增加了不少,这花钱谁不会呀,也许韩尚书做买卖靠得是智慧,毕竟是自家买卖,但是对于财政的贡献,我真没有看到什么智慧。”

韩艺呵呵道:“不瞒李中书,我也有想过税收改制,但是心里有些忐忑,一直不敢提出来,如今看到李中书如此为财政操心,我觉得朝中大臣应该都跟李中书一样,我现在觉得可以值得一试。”

李治道:“你说来听听。”

“遵命!”

韩艺道:“陛下,这钱它不在普通百姓手中,朝廷如果多征收一文钱,可能就会将百姓给压死,这是杀鸡取卵,显然不可行的。但是富人有钱呀,朝廷从富人手中多拿一点钱,也不会影响到他们的生活,好比我这些枢要大臣,如今我们是免税的,其实征税也无所谓。”

李义府听得脸就跟茄子打了霜似得,他是想要捞钱,结果韩艺要刮他的肉,这也太狠了一点吧。

李治笑道:“看来韩爱卿愿意交税给国家。”

韩艺道:“陛下难道忘记了,臣连俸禄都捐给朝廷了。”

李治顿时无语了,韩艺是朝中唯一一个不领俸禄的人,有钱就是任性。

韩艺又道:“租庸调制是按人丁算税,我一亩地和一千亩地,缴纳的税收是一样的,这公平吗?因此臣认为应该按田亩数量征税,以及个人资产来确定该缴纳多少税收,官员更加应该以身作则,天下富人若见连宰相就缴纳高额的税收,他们还好意思不交税么?”

李治听得目光一闪,这厮又动心了,这听上去似乎比征收盐税更加合理一些啊!

李义府急忙道:“陛下,此举万万不可呀,如今四海升平,国泰民安,若是贸然改变税制,这会出大乱子啊!”

韩艺哇了一声,“李中书,你还真是要脸呀!方才你建议征收盐税的时候,难道这不是贸然求变么?但你就说得却是大义凛然,为国为民,我差点都被你感动了。而如今你又知道四海升平,国泰民安了,两者的区别就是,一个是让百姓掏钱,一个是让你掏钱。我韩艺生平很少佩服别人,尤其是在经济领域中,但对李中书我是佩服的五服投地,无法自拔啊。”

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