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第六百五十章 华夷之辩

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看到李休和魏征两人对付自己一个,温彦博也知道这次交锋自己根本占不到便宜,不过他也依然不肯认输,当下一甩袖子直接怒道:“道不同不相为谋,等到来日咱们朝堂上再争个胜负!”

温彦博说完转身就走,毕竟他留在这里也是吃亏,还不如早点离开,而且他敢肯定,只要自己一走,李休和魏征的意见相左,说不定吵的更厉害。

看着温彦博离开的背影,魏征也是冷哼一声,其实像这样的争吵他们已经进行了无数次,每次都是各执己见争论不下,这次也多亏有了李休这个助手,才让他暂时占了上风,不过等到了朝堂上,恐怕温彦博依然会坚持他的看法。

“驸马,温彦博走了,咱们倒是可以好好的谈一谈突厥人内迁的事!”果然,魏征这时立刻转向李休道,看来他也早就想和李休好好的聊一聊了。

“好,其实我就是来找魏左丞聊这件事的,只是我很好奇的是,魏左丞为何非要将突厥人安置到河南一带?”李休这时也点了点头道,他也早就等着这个机会了。

“突厥人乱我中原久矣,从北齐与北周之时,突厥就成为我中原的心腹大患,刚才驸马说突厥人畏威而不怀德,这也是事实,现在我们大唐已经从武力上打败了突厥,但仅仅这样依然是不够的,必须要以礼仪教化这些突厥人,让他们彻底的改变野蛮的习性,成为我华夏的一部分,到时再也没有什么突厥人,这才能彻底的解决掉这个问题。”

魏征说到这里到顿了一下,接着这才再次开口道:“中原是我华夏的起源之地,民风最为淳朴,圣人的教化也最深入人心,所以只有把突厥人迁到那里,才能在最短的时间内让其汉化,相比之下,驸马将突厥人迁到南方那些荒蛮之地,岂不是让北胡变成南蛮,怎么能起到教化之功?”

魏征的这一大段话直接把李休侃蒙了,过了好一会儿他才反应过来,随后不可思议的道:“魏左丞,突厥人就是突厥人,您不会真的想把他们变成汉人吧?”

李休在后世的时候,从小受到民族主义的影响,因此在他心里,汉人就是汉人,突厥人就是突厥人,虽然他第一个提议把突厥人内迁,但却根本没把突厥人当成自己人,而是想把对方当成开荒军团一类的组织,去帮大唐开垦荒地,顺便消磨突厥人的人口,这才是他最大的目的。

“突厥人为什么不能变成汉人,只要他们遵从礼仪,说汉话、穿汉服,自然也就成为了汉人!”魏征这时却是理所当然的道。

“我明白了!”李休听到这里忽然大叫一声,终于明白了自己和魏征最大的分岐是什么了。

其实魏征的话也代表着儒家对民族的定义,那就是华夷之辩,按照孙子和孟子对华夏的定义,所谓华夏人,其实就是遵从华夏礼仪的人,而不遵从华夏之礼的人,则被称为夷人,而且在他们看来,夷人只要遵从华夏礼仪,就成变成华夏人,而华夏人如果舍弃华夏礼仪,则会变成夷人,也就是说,华夏人与夷人之间其实是可以相互转化的。

可以魏征对华夷的定义,已经不仅仅是从血缘上来分辨,就算是一个金发碧眼的胡人遵从华夏礼仪,也会被他们看做是汉人,相比之下,李休却是从血缘上来判定一个人的民族,这两种对民族的判定也无所谓高低,只是角度不同罢了,这也使得他们两人从一开始就出现了巨大的分岐,想要说服魏征也变得难上加难。

想到上面这些,李休也不由得露出沉思的表情,一时间也不知道该用什么理由来说服魏征?

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