第二十二章 石破天惊
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容闳一时不说话的原因,是抚台的这个问题,不大好回答。龙腾小说网ltxs520.com.
以旗记铁厂而论,若是按照他的规划,建厂房,买机器,至少得有一年的工夫,才能开得起来。而开工之后,运转磨合,教练人员,又得有一年工夫,才敢说能够走上正轨。若说做出来东西的品质,想要跟洋货并驾齐驱,那恐怕又不是三五年之间能够做到的。
容闳一直受西式教育,又笃信教,并不像中国官场上那些官僚一样有好大喜功、浮夸成姓的毛病,因此虽然明知关抚台的这一问,意有所指,但沉吟片刻,还是老老实实地回答。
“若说与洋货相较,则七年之内,一定是比不上的。”
言下之意,是七年之后,或可与洋货一争短长。能不能做到,固然还未可知,不过这已经算是很实在的态度了。
“七年,倒也不算长,不过纯甫兄想必知道,枪炮这样的东西,不比寻常货物,好不好都可以先凑合用着——枪炮是要用来装备军队的!两军阵上见生死的时候,我能不能说,你们先不要打我们,等我们七年后换了容闳先生新造的枪炮,咱们再来比试呢?”
“这个……”容闳一时语塞,“想来是不能够的。”
“好,那么我再请问纯甫兄,你打算用的机器,自然是从外洋买回来,与洋人所用的,一般无二,何以做出来的东西,却不如洋货呢?”
“这……”容闳想了想,答道:“机器虽然一样,但工匠的技艺有高低,一应人员物料等调配,也不如洋人谙熟。”
关卓凡想,他这句话倒是说在点子上了——技术不如人,管理不如人,同样的设备,就会生产出不一样的产品来。
“说到底,缺乏这样的人才,是不是呢?”
“抚台说得对极了,若是有同样的人,东西自然可以像洋人做得一样出色。”
“那么,这些人该从哪里来呢?”
“该从……”容闳恍然大悟,“抚台是说,要以旗记铁厂,来作育这些人才?”
“也不是单靠一个旗记,不过这一两年之内,只要你能练一批人出来,我保证他们有更好的地方可去。”关卓凡见他明白了,微笑着说道,“办洋务,没有钱不行,可是光有钱也不行!无论何时,总以人才为第一,只要有了人,你手里那两张纸上写的东西,是水到渠成的事情。”
容闳服了,这才是真正深谋远虑之举。他看着这位比自己还要小上十岁的关卓凡,心想这位年轻的抚台身居高位,得享大名,果然不是幸致!
“至于你说的炼钢厂,诚然是一个国家的工业之本,不过炼钢除了需要机器和技术,更得有铁矿,有煤矿。铁矿就说有吧,可是中国到现在为止,并无真正的煤矿,若说全靠从外洋采购,岂不是失去了自办钢铁的本意?何况国力艰难之下,做事情不能不在成本上做一个打算,以炼钢而言,不是说只要出了钢,就是好的——出的少了,成本高昂,不合算,出的多了,又该销给哪一个?你容纯甫才大如海,这些事,只要想一想,必不难明白。”
“是。”容闳果然用心想了一会,才又开口,“抚台,以中国之大,断然没有找不到煤矿的道理,咱们这就可以开始聘请西洋技师来勘探。钢料的事情,我也明白了……只是不知铁路一项,抚台是怎样打算的?”
“说得好!”关卓凡笑了,“勘探煤矿的事情,以后我也打算委给老兄。至于铁路,说到点子上了,不过我到底只是江苏巡抚,铁路的事情,不能凭我一言而决,倒是炼钢和铁路之间,果然是相辅相成——我直说了吧,一句话:无铁路,不炼钢!”
容闳很受震动,一时没有再出声,细细琢磨着他话里的意思,特别是那句“无铁路,不炼钢。
“纯甫兄,你从美国回来的这几年,想必也都看见了,中国贫瘠,没有无限的金钱,可以虚掷在面子的事情上。”关卓凡的语气,转为郑重,“钱就那么多,一定要用在刀刃上的,每花一两银子下去,就得有一两银子的效用。”
“好,我懂了,卧薪尝胆,以求一逞。”容闳望着关卓凡,诚心诚意地说道,“不管是旗记还是广方言馆,我一定按照抚台的这个宗旨去做。另外抚台所委的探矿一事,我是不是现在就可以着手办理?”
“先不急,”关卓凡摇了摇头,目光炯炯地看着这个托籍异国的中国人,“纯甫先生,我要委给你的,还不止是探矿这一件事。”
距离上京的曰子,还剩下三天了。
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