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第183章 我做三件事

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赵祯转过身来,叹了口气:“你那些改的,都只是一时一事,不触及根本。更多小说ltxs520.com你看看欧阳修写的《原弊》,引经据典,一句句说到根子上去了。如今积弊已深,头痛医痛,脚痛医脚,这样是不行的,要从根子上改弦更张!”

徐平沉默了一会才道:“陛下一定要问,臣也只好有话直说,有不妥当的地方,还望陛下不要责怪。”

“你只管说,我就是要听一听你是怎么想的!”

“臣以为,要想知道如何改,就要知道现在到底是个什么样子。就以欧阳修所言三弊中的‘诱民之弊’来说,听起自然是大有道理,但现在乡村农事是不是真的如此?”

赵祯摆手打断徐平的话:“道理都摆在那里,‘诱民之弊’岂会没有?当然是确确实实存在的!这一点无可置疑!”

“臣也知道是有,但这是不是农事凋弊的原因呢?到底危害有多大?改了这‘诱民之弊’,有多大的效果?会影响其他多少事情?到底值不值得?”

“爱卿啊,你就是想得多!”赵祯转身离开窗户,回到位子上坐下。“古人云,‘有则改之,无则加勉,’知道有弊端,改了就是,改必然是好的!”

赵祯一边说着,一边示意徐平重新过来坐下。

徐平谢恩,落座之后道:“陛下,头痛医头,脚痛医脚,至少不会治死人。如果只是小病而诊错了脉,乱吃药可是会出大事的。还是说‘诱民之弊’,限制僧道臣没有什么话说,凡是没有官赐匾额的寺观一律拆除,没有度牒的僧道一律勒令其还俗,这自然是善政,因为这并没有牵扯到其他政事。但如果说参军为吏也是引诱良民不事耕织,那没有人参军谁去守卫边疆?没有公吏,谁去治理天下?这就是一个度的问题,朝廷到底要多少禁军多少厢军,天下到底要多少公吏,现在是多了还是少了?谁能够说清楚?”

赵祯缓缓地道:“朝野都有人言,如今冗兵,冗吏,冗费。”

“臣在三司,不知道兵如今是多是少,但知道冗吏和冗费。为什么说冗吏?因为现在官府里吏员多于前朝,特别是比祖宗时候员额为多,但哪个说是因为事情清闲?三司里面积压的账籍有多至五六年的,没有比对,没有勾校,公吏是多还是少?裁减了公吏,这些事情要怎么做,谁能说出个所以然来?把人一裁,事情不管,天下哪有这个道理?官员协助陛下治理天,自然是以治事为先,事情拖在那里,都不闻不问,只耍这些嘴皮子,对朝政到底有何益处?官吏是因事而设,事情多了自然官吏就多,不怕官吏多,只怕事情没人做!只要官吏都用心做事,哪里来的冗吏?蔗糖务几年时间上上下下招公吏一千多人,这都是前朝没有过的,但这些人一年给朝廷多出数百万贯钱来,这些人是不是冗吏?对朝廷中的具体事务一无所知,只会空口白话,冗兵,冗吏,冗费,到底冗在那里他们能够说得清楚吗?臣在三司编修条例,定公吏员额,正是要把他们到底做多少事情,需要多少人手搞得清清楚楚。现在微臣都不敢说搞清楚了有冗吏,还有什么人比微臣更清楚这些!”

赵祯道:“人人如此说,总是有道理的。”

“陛下,微臣就明说了吧,现在是天下都知道朝政需要大的更张,但却没有人知道要改什么,怎么改。好为大言的,便就用这种耸人听闻的话语惹人注目。听起来处处是道理,却跟实际朝政没有半分关系。而埋头做事的人,明明知道这些话有失偏颇,但牵涉的又极广,根本无法反驳。就是能反驳,说出来也没有人听,反而只怪反驳的人是谁诿塞责,哪里还会有人去说?再如冗费,冗在哪里?有人能够说清楚吗?都说郊祀犒赏军兵数额巨大,但那能省掉吗?省掉之后如何让官兵心里无怨言?没人知道,只是说如果官兵心怀埋怨就是贪鄙可恶。到了最后,无非是一句话,让陛下节用爱民,一切都要从皇宫里省出来。纵然陛下圣明,省吃俭用,可于天下何补?”

实话讲,到现在的几位大宋皇帝中,最不省吃俭用的就是赵祯自己。真宗皇帝东封西祀是乱花钱,但自己本身并不怎么铺张浪费,倒是赵祯挺在意自己的小日子。但既然有官员提出来了要节用爱民,赵祯就得做样子出来,消减宫廷开支。

徐平这番话还是挺对赵祯胃口的,没有人愿意天天被人指责生活腐化,浪费民脂民膏。而且不管怎么改,他们永远不满意。

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