第188章 以何处为准?
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吕夷简道:“徐待制说的貌似也有道理,到底对不对,试上一试便就知道了。反正制的刻摆还有不少,便就让人带着,分别向东西方向去,得州县走走看看。”
梅询突然又道:“如果真是如此,那如果有人在地上跑得快了,岂不是可以追上太阳?向西跑,就可以一直是白昼?这样想来貌似有些荒唐!”
徐平道:“荒唐什么?只是人追不上太阳而已,如果追上,一直是白天也非常正常。古人言宇宙如鸡子,人在最中,则我们脚下的大地可能就如鸡子最中心一样,是个圆球。一路向前跑去,终有一天回到原地,白天就一直是白天。”
中国人的宇宙观相当混乱,各种各样的说法都有,而且官方也并没有规定一定要怎么说。只要你说的有道理,就有人信你的。而且宋儒不再相信天命,对这些知识比前人开明了许多,尽可以天马行空地去想。
听了徐平的话,众人不由笑了起来。
赵祯道:“天地如鸡子,古人倒是真有这种说法。听起来虽然有些无稽,但天地之大,谁又能够一句话说死?不如这样,就再用两台刻摆,一台向东到青州,一台向西到京兆府,看是不是各地的时刻都不同。如果不同,与京城相差多少。”
吕夷简捧笏:“陛下所说是正理,此事可行。所谓坐而论道,不如真地去行上千里路,什么结果,一目了然。不然我们再说上几天,也还是说不清楚。”
看着站在一边的欧阳修和杨惟德,赵祯道:“此事便就交给你们,等到回洛阳司天监把那刻摆安顿好了,便就再带上两台,分别向东向西,看看到底如何。”
欧阳修和杨惟德领命。
赵祯又问:“那洛阳司天监的刻摆如何处置?是把时刻调成跟那里的刻漏一样再行比较呢,还是不调?”
“调自然是要调的,不然每天比较起来太过麻烦。不过差了多少时刻,调之前一定要记清楚,记得精确一些。以后确定了各地的时刻不同,是要知道各地到底跟京城相差多少的,就跟舆地图上的四至一样,著之版籍。”
王曾一直不说话,这时候突然问道:“各地时刻不同,那天下要以哪里为准?”
徐平道:“自然是京城!天子所居,天下之中!”
“为什么不是洛阳?那里才是天下之中,艺祖龙诞之地!”
憋得有些难受的欧阳修听了这话突然就来了精神,捧笏说道:“下官以为王相公说的有理,洛阳才是天下之中!此事早已载之典籍。而且不只是地理,就连说话口音也以洛阳为准。本朝韵书,向来都是以洛阳口音为正,为什么时刻就不这样了?”
徐平看了看在场的众人,到了这个时候,神情都严肃起来。这可跟讨论各地时差不一样,那就是个纯粹的学术问题,学术问题不值钱。以哪里的时刻为准,可就是个政治问题,政治问题容不得半点马虎。
开封的地位一年一年上升,与洛阳的差距越来越大,但总还是有一些人想着要把都城迁到洛阳去。在他们眼里,开封城没有洛阳千年古都那样厚重的历史,而且四处平原,无险可守,比不上洛阳八关环绕,可以凭关驻防。开封强于洛阳的,最重要的无非是河运发达,江淮粮米运到这里方便而已。
此时朝廷里面一些礼仪类的,多数还是以洛阳为正,开封并不是当然的都城。首都而已,只是几都里面排在第一位的,并不是惟一的。
徐平对这个话题没什么立场,他的前世也早已经习惯了剥去都城的神圣意义,一切以实用为最优先。什么天下之中,只是存在观念中,并没有什么科学意义。此时天下的经济重心在东在南,从管理方便的角度,当然还是开封比洛阳强一些。当然军事上洛阳确实比开封有优势,有八关可以防守,洛阳平原本身也能支撑不少人口。
见一个简单的科学问题要转向政治话题,赵祯忙道:“此事容后再议,现在各地的时刻到底是不是不同,差了多少还没有定论,搞清楚了再确定哪里为准吧。”
说完,吩咐欧阳修和杨惟德两人先出宫,骑快马返回洛阳,按照原先的吩咐把刻摆在洛阳司天监安排好。之后回到京城再领命,准备带着刻摆到各地实测。
等两人的身影消失在花木之中,赵祯才道:“刻摆的话题先到这里吧,趁着今天有空闲,说一说前些日子棉布的事情。”
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