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第159章 堵塞的海路

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黄金彪不耐烦地敲了敲桌子:“我就说你一个蛮夷眼皮子浅,几十万人很多吗?开封府一两百万人户呢!不说都城,就说我们邕州,那也是有几十万人户,那还是边疆之地呢!”

王文吃了一惊:“就连邕州那边鄙之地也有几十万人?不要诓我!”

“都漕官人便在这里,你问一问,当时括土为丁,有多少人?”

徐平笑着道:“这一点黄金彪没有多说,邕州确实有几十万人户的。当时括土为丁,土人就有二三十万户,加上几个县的编户,再加上蔗糖务,还真未必比高丽的人户少了。”

徐平在岭南时候的邕州可比后世的南宁大市多了,几乎相当于大半个后来的广西。这个年代高丽那种高纬度地区适合种植的作物不多,天气又寒冷,远比不了邕州的人口承载能力,人口跟邕州差不多是很正常的事情。

王文有些泄气:“好吧,高丽偏远小邦,人户稀少,自然不能跟中原的繁华富庶比。不过再小也有生意做,听都漕官人的意思,莫非是嫌高丽地瘠人贫,看不上那里的交易?”

徐平摆了摆手:“我哪有那个意思,若是真那么想,也就不会关照处处给你方便了。我说的是,要做大生意,高丽终究还是显得小了,能挣的财货有限。我听人说日本国土地比高丽多得多,人户也多得多,生意做到那里,才有大利息!”

王文摇了摇头:“都漕官人不知,日本国那里的生意不好做,他们防外人防得厉害。跟高丽通商路是因这来往货物不多,一旦多了,想方设法把商路断了也说不定。”

听了此话,徐平关切地问道:“哦,真防得这么厉害吗?我也听说日本国禁海商,不过也没完全断绝,只是让三年通大宋海商一次,最近听说最多的有一年去四次的。只是那里管得太严,不许民间私商,海商到了那里都要把货物让他们官府统一发卖。”

“都漕官人只知其一,不知其二。日本国的人自然是喜欢中原货物的,如他们那里也产丝绸,而且品相也还不错,历年都有卖到我们高丽的。但是官员贵人,但凡有一点身份的,都要穿中原卖过去的丝绸,就连有钱人家的侍女都要这样才有身份。日本国产的纸我看在中原也有些名气,不少地方还当成宝物。但他们那里不同,笔墨纸砚都要用中原运过去的,不然就被人瞧不起。小可说这些,意思是那里想买大宋货物人自然是有,但是官府却管得严,一旦多了,便就想方设法禁断。大宋这里的海商,总有人找各种借口,比如说是在海上遇了风暴,飘到日本国去,想用这种说法做交易。遇到这种商人,日本国多是不许下船,连货物带人一起遣送走了事。他们做生意,一旦做大了便各种猜忌。”

这些海上的事,徐平仅从这个年代中原人的口中打听,总是了解得不清楚。实际上这个时候,大宋对日本的政治形势都了解得不清楚,也没有了解渠道。

听了王文的话,徐平不由问道:“他们既然喜欢中原货物,为何还防得这么厉害?”

“现在的日本国,虽然也有国王,但大权却不在国王的手里。他们国里有一个姓藤原的望族官人,日本国的人都是这种姓,多是两个字。这藤原家是外戚,一般国王的生母都是他们家的人。藤原家把持着国政,在国王幼小的时候,称为‘摄政’,即代国王处理国事。等到国王成年,便就改任‘关白’这‘关白’也是他们国里的职事,实权尤重于大宋的宰相,可以说国事事无不统。所以这藤原家,往往被称为‘摄关’,是事实上掌管日本国的,他们的国王反而只是个摆设。”

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