第203章 换相(中)
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吕夷简看着面色沉静,不喜不怒的王曾,不由一笑:“孝先此话,有些书生之见了。更多小说ltxs520.com这世间手中钱,用来生利天经地义,只要年息合适,不要贪得无厌取息过高就是。徐平在京西路只放贷给他们那里的公司,在我想来无非两点,一是想让税钱主要从公司来,贷给他们的钱就是个贴补,再一个公司的账查得紧,钱庄不用废大力气追账。两点之中,又以第一点为重。京西路有大量的棉花,当然可以如此,其他地方又何必邯郸学步?在开封府和其他地方,钱庄的钱当然可以放给其他人,怕到时收不上本息,找人担保就是,这有何难?”
王曾淡淡地道:“每年因为质库解库放贷,官司极多,更有被逼得卖鬻女的惨事。民间放贷已经是如此,官府放贷,为了不失本钱,官吏只怕会闹出更多事端。”
“世间哪里有两全其美的事?有一利必有一弊。放贷易出事不错,严加管控就是了。”
《富国安民策》实际上包括两方面的内容,一在富国,一在安民。后面具体的各种施政措施主要是讲如何富国,前面的理论部分则主要在讲如何安民,但是富国的目的是为了安民,根基在安民。
同样一本书,王曾看重的是安民,富国不能背离了这个目的。吕夷简看重的则是如何富国,至于民安,那是国富之后附带来的好处。理解不同,目的不同,同样的政策便就会出现巨大的分歧。在王曾的眼里,官府手里再有钱,不能够国泰民安,那也不能算政通人和。吕夷简却觉得施政之难不就是因为手里没有钱吗,有钱了还不是万事皆顺?
王曾沉默不语,过了很长时间,突然说道:“似这些事,京西路向来都是徐平在一手安排,其间的利弊,他的心里最清楚。既然要行新政,我们又何必冒险?让徐平回京来主持就是。解铃还须系铃人,京西路的事情起自他,便由他自己来解开这困境!”
听了这话,赵祯的眼睛一亮。在他心里,最理想的结果自然是让徐平回来,别人说起那些政策来都如隔靴搔痒,惟有徐平才能一针见血。但是徐平资历、声望都不足,像这样的国家大事是必须有宰执在政事堂坐镇,全力支持的,不然就只是一场热闹,落不到实处去。两位宰相难得一起同意试行徐平在京西路的新政,赵祯的意思,便就是让王曾和吕夷简暂时放下挣执,全力支持徐平。不想没提徐平回来,两人又吵上了。
吕夷简神色不动,对王曾说道:“能让徐平回来最好,只是现在京西路离不了他。去年就有一众分司官员对新政不满,联名靠到朝廷,我们强压下来而已。徐平一走,还有谁能够收拾场面?做事情最怕半途而废,让徐平回京,只怕朝廷的事情没有做好,就连京西路的局面也崩坏了。王相公此议听起来有理,实际不妥。”
宋绶突然插嘴:“不只是京西路离不了徐平,还有西北局面不稳。前两年徐平在京城的时候,城里曾经闹过党项细作,他那时候断定,元昊在党项的根基并没有我们外人看起来那样牢固,必须对外不停开战。赢了增加他自己的威望,输了可以借不服他的人的人头来收拾党项内部。并断言,一旦党项败于吐蕃,则叛离大宋的日子就不远了。党项在西北盘距一两百年,传承数代,地广千里,带甲数十万,绝非一般的蛮夷小邦可比。西北一旦有变,必须有能征善战的重臣到那里坐镇。本朝文武百官,论起带兵作战,威慑异邦,又有谁能跟徐平相比?当年在邕州,他以一州之地,平定交趾,破其国,执其王,党项如果反叛本朝也非他去不可!调他回京,如果新政摊子铺开几个月,党项那里出来,怎么办?到时把徐平调往西北,摊子谁来收拾?不如从一开始就不用他!”
蔡齐道:“依宋参政所说,如果党项十年不叛,十年就不用徐平了?百年不叛,那徐平就在外边州县等上一辈子?当年徐平说的,也只是依据当时形势推论西北局势,世事变幻无常,总有各种意外。党项败于吐蕃,现在又去打河西,没有几年时间平定不了。再者本朝泱泱大国,国政自然以我为主,岂能受制于蛮夷小邦!”
宋绶冷冷看了蔡齐一眼,沉声道:“书声之见!兵者大事,系国家存亡之安危,不可有一丝懈怠!利器宁可备而不用,不可一日无备!”
蔡齐转过身子,对着宋绶怒目而视:“你牙尖嘴利,听起来都是为国着想,谁又不知道肚子里的龌龊主意?没有徐平,我大宋难道就收拾不了党项一个摄尔小邦了?三衙所统禁军雄兵数十万,兵多将足,器甲精良,元昊若反,出大军平定就是!”
宋绶一声冷笑:“那就要问枢密院了,今时今日,禁军比之先帝时如何?”
见大家都转身看着自己,张士逊不由额头冒冷汗,沉吟良久,只好捧笏:“这几年西府和三司虽然用尽心力,但军力比之先帝时,还还是尚有不足”
蔡齐怒道:“这两年拔付给军兵所用,比往年又多两成,钱粮花了无数,军力却还不如以前,西府和三衙在干什么?!徐平前两年在京城多收的钱粮,八成拔付军需,结果这钱竟然是白白花了吗?依枢密院的意思,禁军不能打,非要用他一个文臣?”
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