第一百五十三章 军国主义？
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“范公，下官一再的思量过，现在裁减冗员，肃清吏治必不可行，阻力太大，咱们根本经受不住诸多反对势力的反抗，那就只能另辟蹊径，我大宋的存在的问题还有一个方法可以解决，那就是把这些问题转嫁出去。”
范仲淹愕然看着他问道：“转嫁出去，怎么个转嫁法？”
“若我们能收回西北，那么这一大片的地方到时就能分流出很大一部分冗员，到时再挟大胜之威，把剩下的冗员一次裁减掉，肃清吏治之后，其他问题就能迎刃而解，到时候也不只是肃清整治之么简单，如果陛下看到了希望，就算是真正恢复唐制也不难，只有真正还权于三省六部九寺，才谈得能裁减冗员，范公请想，如今六部九寺是个什么样子，空养着无数官员，但形同虚设，几乎没有实权，先说兵部吧，调兵权在枢密院手里，统兵权在三衙手里，兵部除了掌点存档，其它一无所事，户部更不用说，财政支度之权全在三使司手里，吏部呢？考功铨先官员等主要权力分散在中书省、审官院、枢密院、三班院、考功院之中，其它的下官就不一一赘述了，范公请想，若真能还权于六部，那么诸如考功院、审官院、三使司等这些部位就可以撤去，光这些，范公想过能裁减多少冗员吗？”
这回真是把范仲淹惊到了，他没想到许清最终的想法竟比他深入多陪，还权于三省六部九寺，连范仲淹都不曾敢想，若真能办到，则不只是裁减冗员、精简机构的好处了，各种政令也将通达得多，最主要的一点，相权将增加许多，那时将真正起到了制约一部分君权的作用，大臣们有了更多的话语权。
范仲淹目光灼灼地看着许清道：“然则不先肃清吏治，裁减冗员，国库依然是入不敷出，子澄谈何收复西北呢？”
许清淡淡一笑，拿起清茶喝了一口，理清思路后才说道：“范公，西夏如今也是难以为继，民心厌战，只要我们能先抓住三点，钱、粮、军；在西夏虚弱之时全力一击，收复西北之地并不难。先说这钱吧，范公也知道我建银行、建船厂，船厂是长远之策，一但真能把海上丝绸之路发展起来，国库收入绝对能增加两到三陪，目前朝廷年入一千八百万贯左右，到时增加到五六千万贯不成问题，且先说银行吧，范公绝对想不到银行敛财的速度有多快，下官敢保证，光是银行这一项收入，保证我大宋完成一场军制改革绝对不成问题。再说粮……”
许清把自己与赵祯说过改革司农寺、推广旱地作物的那些想法一一向范仲淹和盘托出，范仲淹听了连连点头。
“范公，关于粮食储备你也听说了，粮食储备不但是百年大计，也是目前军事扩张的重要保证，所以晚生的想法是，成立一个新的机构，划于司农寺管辖，选派能员专门负责青苗款的发放，及粮食储备的问题。咱们此时只须牢牢抓住银行的财，和青苗款所带来的粮，然后下大力气革新军制，裁减老弱，勤加督练，不出一年便练出一支精兵强将来。”
“范公，下官最终的意思就是，紧抓钱粮和军队，趁西夏这两年同样虚弱之时，一举收回西北，然后再把国内问题转嫁出去，无论是冗员还是土地兼并问题，到时都可顺势解决，可免去如今就从吏冶入手，碰个头破血流之局。”
许清说得口干舌燥，范仲淹却只是深深地看着他，以范仲淹的政治智慧，他不难看出从吏治入手失败的可能性有多大；而如今许清提供的这套方法确实有足够的诱惑力，只是太过超乎想象，范仲淹一时还有些迟疑。
许清自己笑笑，其实说白了，他这套法则不过是后世用烂的方法，资本方义向外扩张，最主要的原因无非就是为了转嫁国内重重矛盾，但中国自古以来就没有把国内矛盾向外转嫁的做法过。儒家的学说极大地限制了这种思想的出现，毕竟许清提供的这个方法军国主义色彩太浓，这而儒家学说背道而驰。
但对于比较务实的范仲淹来说，却有着非常大的诱惑力，按许清的做法，既不用一下触及大多数人的利益，从而引发群起反抗的局面，一但真能完成扩张，不但能收回汉唐故地，也能顺势解决国内的重重矛盾，范仲淹静静的深思着，目光不时在许清脸上停留，最后郑重地说道：“子澄，这事我要好好思量一翻才能作答。”
许清没说什么，要一下子改变范仲淹他们的想法不现实，如今还有些时间，让他和韩琦等人先沟通沟通也好，从吏治入手的阻力有多大想必他们也清楚，最后就看他们如何选择了。
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