第二百三十四章 朝会上的争夺(二)
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“既无意见,盐铁监一事就此拍板,封李琳为盐铁监令!”
“陛下有旨,封李琳为盐铁监令!”
李琳快步走到玉阶前,双膝跪下道:“臣李琳谢主龙恩!”
随后,李隆基又批准了吏部的一些人事任免事项,渐渐地大殿里的气氛开始紧张起来。
下一件事便是讨论组建‘官柜’,这涉及到太多人的利益,赞成者有,反对者则更多,不少人都悄悄取出奏折,这是他们昨晚连夜写成。
“各位爱卿,想必大家都已经看过了殿中监事先散发的朝议内容,也应预审过‘官柜’的条例草案,成立官柜的意义朕就不必多言,这里需要给各位爱卿先说一句,此事事关重大,朕并没有结论,只希望众爱卿畅所预言,指出它的利弊,利大于弊,此草案可实施,若弊大于利,则取消这个方案。”
“陛下,臣有一些疑义想请教李侍郎!”这开头一炮的是御史中丞张倚,他生的四肢短小,头已经半秃,张倚也是李隆基所宠信之臣,凡他弹劾的官员十之八九都要被罢职处理,号称御史台第一刀,他原是太子党人,东宫案后,他不看好太子李亨,反去投靠了永王。
李隆基看了看张倚,也微微替李清担心,这张倚最善于抓住问题的漏洞,几句话便可集中要害,但李隆基也很想知道张倚发现了什么,便微微笑道:“张中丞可但问无妨!”
今天张倚也是有备而来,他慢慢走到户部的行列,先向尚书张筠行一礼,又直接向李清拱拱手道:“我只有一处不明,在草案的总纲里,李侍郎说新官柜主要是掌管天下货币,但里面的内容则有一条写着各县百姓可将租庸交至柜坊,视同已经完税,但我大唐丁户所交的税赋并不是铜钱,而是粮食布绢,这是不是和总纲所述不符?而且官柜一直要修到各县,钱又从哪里来?在下就是这两个问题,请李侍郎答复。”
李清跨出行列,向他回一礼,又给李隆基施了个了礼,这才回头道:“官柜就是只管货币收纳,并不管粮食布绢,之所以让官柜代收租庸,是考虑户籍帐册都是由地方制定,而再由他们自行收纳税赋,这样会有作弊的可能,而官柜就是第三只眼,可起到监察地方的作用,它所征的税赋将就近解押进官库,而且,以来若条件成熟,也可以考虑将实物租庸转为钱币税赋。”
不等李清说完,他的老对头,工部尚书李道复便接口道:“李侍郎也做过小县主簿,难道就没有考虑过,这一下将地方的财权剥夺殆尽,若发生什么紧急情况,如桥断、路坏,地方官府将无财物所用,只得向朝廷申请,这层层批转下来,没有一年也有半载,那地方上什么事情也不要做了。”
李清瞥了他一眼,不急不缓道:“李尚书考虑得太简单了,各地征收的租庸本来就该归朝廷,再由朝廷给地方拨付,可现在,许多州县都有挤占、挪用朝廷税款的现象,似乎已经顺理成章,我所做的不过是重新将老制度理理正,这又有何诧异,难道李尚书在地方上为官时,税赋从来没有交给朝廷过?”
李道复脸一红,喃喃地一句话也说不出话来,便悄悄地退了下去。
“杨京兆可也是有话要问吗?”李清见杨国忠跃跃欲试,便冷笑着先替他说出来。
“不错!我是有话要说。”杨国忠一步跨出,先狠狠地瞪了李清一眼,才向李隆基拱手道:“臣一直以为,户部制大纲而不举细务,现在李侍郎既要拿走太府寺的左藏,还有少府寺的铸钱使,却又要将这个所谓的官柜划给户部直辖,让人不得不怀疑李侍郎存有私心啊!”
李清嘴角轻轻一撇,摇了摇头,对于杨国忠的人身攻击,他连反驳的力气都省了,这种话,杨国忠说多了,最后不过是自取其辱罢了。
果然,李隆基脸一沉,却没理他,使杨国忠心里有一种一拳打空的感觉,顿时惊惶不已,不知道自己哪里说错了话。
不过杨国忠的发言却调动了大家的积极性,官员们随即纷纷表态,皆认为此法太过于苛刻,将严重影响地方施政。
“陛下,在大唐各县组建官柜会增加人手费用。”
“陛下,需要先解决漕运问题!”
众人七嘴八舌让李隆基头疼不已,他瞥了一眼李林甫,见他轻轻抚须笑而不语,便问道:“李相国,你可有什么想法?”
李林甫早有腹案,只见他缓缓走到玉阶下,不慌不忙道:“老臣以为成立官柜这思路是很不错,但细节上略有点欠妥当,比如漕运问题,吸纳民间闲钱的问题,这些问题若解决不好,将来必有后患。”
“那依相国之见呢?”
李林甫微微一笑,忍不住捋了捋长须,“我嘛!有三个补充意见,一是在地方修建朝廷仓库,如扬州、成都、襄州等地,除了钱以外,其余物资皆可就近入库,不必进京;二是杨大人所说,臣也认为成立官坊确实不应直属户部,不过这倒也好办,单独设成一寺便可;第三,此事涉及地方与朝廷的关系,影响重大,不应仓促决定,臣建议可选某地方先试运行一两年,条件成熟后再向各地推广。”
“不错!不错!”
李隆基连声称赞,“还是相国的想得稳妥,深合朕意!”
他看了看李清,笑问道:“李侍郎,你以为呢?”
李清点了点头,“臣尤其赞同相国的第三条。”
“那就这样定了!”李隆基断然道:“由户部牵头组建官柜,暂隶属户部,可先在陕州、绵州、苏州三地试运行一到两年,若可行,再向天下推广!”
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