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第四百六十九章 无期国债

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见道光点到他头上,易知足微微欠身道:“朝廷欠债三千万,乃是可喜可贺之事.......。”

可喜可贺?这是什么混账话?欠了如此一笔堪称巨额的债务,道光和他们一众大臣一个个都愁的睡不着觉,这小子居然说可喜可贺?不会是没清醒吧?在座四人都是一脸惊愕,道光亦是一脸茫然。

王鼎素知他口无遮拦,没想到他在道光面前竟然也这般大胆,连忙轻斥道:“休的胡言,仔细君前失仪。”

道光摆了摆手,道:“无妨,今日诸卿皆可畅所欲言。”略微一顿,他才接一脸狐疑的道:“朝廷欠债,难不成还是件好事?”

“微臣岂敢信口开河。”易知足从容说道:“相较于朝廷在国库囤积数千万两白银,朝廷欠债三千万,确实是一件好事,可说是利国利民,不仅利于促进白银流通,也利于促进大清金融市场的快速形成,有利于大清改变国策模式。”

听的这话,众人都知道他不是在开玩笑,但一个个都是满头雾水,听不明白,这次不待道光开口,卓秉恬便催促道:“知足快详细说说,究竟是怎么回事?”

“此事,非是三言两语说的清楚。”易知足微笑着道:“朝廷欠债三千万,一千万是发行五年期国债,另外两千万乃是向元奇拆解,在下问一句,若是将这两千万两白银转为无期限国债,每年偿还6%利息,朝廷可会同意?”

无期限国债,每年偿还6%利息?听的这话,几人又是一呆,天底下还有这等好事?祁寯藻颤声道:“等于是说,这两千万,朝廷无须还本金,只须每年偿还一百二十万两利息?”

易知足点了点头,道:“当然,不过,朝廷若是有足够的财力,要偿还本金,也是可以的。”

这家伙是脑袋被驴踢了?还是被门夹了?如此亏本的生意也肯做?元奇究竟是怎么赚钱的?所有人都看怪物一般齐刷刷的盯着他看,就连道光也是一脸的不解,元奇这是要取悦朝廷吗?

半晌,卓秉恬才回过神来,道:“有什么条件?”

易知足不自觉的掏出一支雪茄来,不过意识到场合不对,没敢点燃,便放在鼻端轻嗅了嗅,见这情形,道光开口道:“想抽就抽,不必在意。”

“谢皇上恩典。”易知足口中道谢,却是没点燃雪茄,略微沉吟才道:“在圣祖爷时,英吉利为了筹措战争军费,发行了六千万国债,其中二千万就是无期国债,由英格兰银行、东印度公司和南海公司持有。

如今大清唯有元奇有这份实力为君分忧,为国抒难,岂能斤斤计较?况且,元奇从创建之日起,便得到朝廷和地方官府的大力支持,于公于私,元奇都当尽一分绵薄之力。”

后面一句,在座几人都自动过滤掉了,但对前一句话却很是感兴趣,英吉利居然能够一次发行六千万国债,二千万是无期国债,也就是说这无期国债在西洋早就有了。

在座几人都是理财好手,都在户部干过,自然清楚无期国债意味着什么,这将意外着朝廷的负债能力可以得到极大的提升!

卓秉恬反应最快,试探着道:“英吉利能够一次发行如此大规模的国债,是因为英吉利有着成熟的金融市场?”

易知足颌首道:“英吉利银行业发达,有着完善的金融市场和体系,如今元奇尚且处于起步阶段,大清也无其他实力雄厚,规模庞大的银行或是实业公司,无法为朝廷分担更多的国债,不过,相信这种局面会很快有所改变。”

二千万两白银如果变成无期国债,朝廷的压力登时大为减少,道光眼光有些复杂的看着易知足,他听的明白,对方这是希望大清多有几家象元奇一样资金实力雄厚的银行或是公司,联想到前些日子对方提出的在各省推行元奇模式,足见对方这话是出自一片真心。

房间里安静了片刻,杜受田闷声道:“将二千万欠款转为无期国债,岂非不利于促进金融市场的形成,也有利于改变国策模式?”

“从元奇承接朝廷发行一千万国债,到这次二千万无期国债,都是元奇让朝廷尝到发展金融债券市场的甜头。”易知足直言不讳的道:“大清没有成熟的银行体系,没有成熟的金融融资渠道,不仅不利于朝廷,也不利于地方发展实业,发展商业,发展农业,发展手工业,也不利于保护农民,遏制土地兼并,不利于抵御自然灾害,不利于缓解社会矛盾.......。

如今大清的借贷利息是多少?最便宜的是年息12%,便宜的是年息18%和24%,正常的是36%,至于高的,40-50%都不算高,100%、180%的都有,更有印子钱、驴打滚,利加利,一还三,年年翻,一年借,十年还,几辈子,还不完。”

这话一落音,房间里登时安静的落针可闻,就连道光心头都是一跳,他算是明白过来了,金融市场,银行业,国策模式,元奇这压根就是要彻底打击当铺和高利贷!

大清最赚钱的生意是什么?毫无疑问,是开当铺,放高利贷!皇室,各级官府、官员士绅、商贾富户,地主豪强,军将士卒等等都开当铺,放高利贷,而且朝廷还鼓励,发放生息银,让地方军政官员用以营运生息,全国在官府领帖开设的合法典当铺就有二万五六千家之多。

安静了半晌,王鼎才开口道:“如今广东,可还有当铺?”

“有。”易知足朗声道:“不过数量很少,整个广州如今不过十余家当铺,高利贷在明面上已经销声匿迹,小额借贷元奇有存一贷二的规矩,大额借贷可以抵押借贷,年息在12%——24%之间......。”

王鼎道:“元奇垄断广东钱业还如此高息?”

“总的有个过度阶段不是。”易知足微笑着道:“这几年东南动荡,元奇的日子也不好过,估摸着十年之内,元奇就有足够的财力,将年息降至12%以下,实则,如今对于开办工厂、矿场、大型作坊等的贷款申请,年息都是12%。”

稍稍沉吟,王鼎开口道:“元奇可是想在其他省份开设分号?”

听的这话,卓秉恬、祁寯藻、杜受田三人心里都是一紧,也就王鼎敢如此问,若是让元奇将分号开遍大清各省,以后还如何遏制元奇?

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