第三十二章、唯才是举
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魏讽要向是勋请教学术问题，是勋点头应允。更多小说ltxs520.com于是就听魏讽问啦：“讽闻是公论国事，每言利也，而不及于道德，未识何故？”
是勋坦然答道：“为时儒多言道德，而讳称利，然国无利而不可存，故乃发他人所未发也。若皆先贤余唾，勋言之何益？”不是我不讲道德，问题这社会上开口闭口都是道德的家伙太多啦，他们把该说的全都说完了，所以我无谓再展开这一命题，干脆只讲讲被他们所忽视的利的问题算啦。
魏讽闻言，微微一愕很明显他没有料到是勋会给出这种答案来。本来儒家多论道德，少谈利益，这属于政治正确，结果是勋一提到相关国家之事，就光说利了，很少言德，那魏子京当然要趁便打问一下啦你是轻视道德吗？是认为利益在道德之先吗？
当然啦，对方是积年的经学家，不是这么容易就给轰败的，在魏讽想来，是勋有两种可能的回答途径：一，就是撇清，说我不是没提过道德，只是口耳相传，被你的什么乡人给传歪了而已；二是矫情，说利益也如何如何地重要，故此不可不言也。没想到是勋却玩了一招“如封似闭”，四两拨千斤，话里根本没有漏洞可抓，也根本没表露任何个人倾向。
任览忍不住插嘴问了一句：“然则是公￡以为义利孰先？”
魏讽斜眼瞟了瞟任览，心说好朋友你这话问得不但无理，而且无礼。说无理。儒家崇尚道德。身为儒者。谁会说利在义先啊？说无礼，你既然这么问，不就是怀疑是勋把利益放诸道德之上吗？人好歹是经学大家，就算怀疑他的品行和理论，也该拐个弯子，曲折委婉而言才是啊。
是勋倒是并不以为忤他身份摆在这儿，大庭广众之下跟个小年轻置气，实在有失涵养于是继续含糊其辞：“何所谓先后耶？从之而游。先生在前，弟子在后；涉事临难，弟子在前，先生在后。利者温饱也，义者存心也，各有所长，因事制宜。岂有君不言利，民不果腹，而乃能义之乎？”
学生跟着老师出门，当然是老师走前面。学生走后面，可是碰上什么危难。难道学生也要往后缩吗？脱离实际情境，又怎么可能奢谈先后？倘若君主不肯言利，使老百姓都吃不上饭，那还能够教化他们，齐以道德吗？
他就多余说那最后一句，任览自以为揪住语病了，当即反诘道：“子曰：‘自古皆有死，民无信不立。’何君之不言利而不能义之乎？”
《论语》上记载说，子贡向孔子求问为政之道，孔子说：“足食，足兵，民信之矣。”有这三条就足够了。子贡又问：“必不得已而去，于斯三者何先？”我要是没法全都办到，那么先舍弃哪一条合适呢？孔子说：“去兵。”可以把国防问题先放一放。子贡三问：“必不得已而去，于斯二者何先？”剩下两条先扔哪条好呢？于是孔子说：“去食。自古皆有死，民无信不立。”
孔子的意思，貌似是说饿肚子不要紧，只要老百姓信任君主，愿从教化，那就一切ok啦。因此任览便问，这不是和您的说法背道而驰吗？究竟是孔子错了，还是您错了？
是勋一撇嘴，忍不住哂笑道：“甚矣，汝之不悟也。设民不信，何以足食、足兵？安有民信上者，而不得食且国不强者乎？孔子以仁爱教化，岂欲使民皆饿杀耶？”你是想说孔子不怕饿死老百姓吧？那他还能够自诩仁德，为百世圣贤之祖吗？
任览吃了一个瘪，答不上话来，只好把求助的目光投向魏讽。魏讽心说谁让你把话题给带偏的，而且还妄引圣人之言？老朋友啊，脑筋和嘴皮子不够利索，那就老实跟一旁喝酒吃菜吧，且听我跟是勋好好对答几句。当下深深一揖，姿态倒是摆得挺低，问是勋道：“前岁魏王下举贤之令，是公知否？”
是勋心说这不废话嘛，前年我还在做着魏国中书令，国家法令，理论上都必须由我中书草拟，即便是曹操亲笔，或命秘书、门下拟就的旨意，也得过我们一道手审核呀，我怎么可能不知道呢？当下也不作答，只是微微点头。魏讽说了：“讽能默诵其要，是公请听，得讹否？”
于是就开始背文章：“自古受命及中兴之君，曷尝不得贤人君子与之共治天下者乎！及其得贤也，曾不出闾巷，岂幸相遇哉？上之人不求之耳。今天下尚未定，此特求贤之急时也。‘孟公绰为赵、魏老则优，不可以为滕、薛大夫’。若必廉士而后可用，则齐桓其何以霸世？今天下得无有被褐怀玉而钓于渭滨者乎？又得无盗嫂受金而未遇无知者乎？二三子其佐我明扬仄陋，唯才是举，吾得而用之……”
是勋还没回答，旁边儿陈祎先说了：“子京博闻强记，应漏。”
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